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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Jul 23, 2011 12:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Music Never Stopped, Good Movie

I just watched the new movie "The Music Never Stopped". It's a very good Father-Son relationship story that revolves around music from the 60's, including Dylan, Buffalo Springfield, CSNY, the Stones and particularly The Grateful Dead.

Unfortunately as a Deadhead, it was hard to watch it without noticing a few inaccuracies.

Nitpicking, I know, but here are a few I saw and there may be more that slipped by me:

1) At one point they played the studio version of Uncle John's Band and showed the LP as it was playing and it was the last track on the side. Now, it's probably been 30 years or so since I saw the vinyl version of Workingman's dead, but if memory serves, it was the first cut on side one.

2) As the kids are heading out to try to see a show in '67 or '68 they are listening to Sugar Magnolia which wasn't released or performed until 1970.

3) The Father and son attend a concert in '86 or '87 at the Hammerstein in NY. I'm pretty sure they did not perform there in the 80's or ever. According to Deadbase they only played the Garden in NYC during those years. (Earlier in the movie they were going to a show in Stonybrook, NY and there was a show there 5/4/68, so that was historically correct.)

4) At the show they attend the band opens with Truckin' and contains Touch of Grey. Again, according to DB this never happened at any show.

Aside from those, and my wife telling me to shut up about them so she could enjoy the flick, it was a moving account of how music can help heal the mind and bring people together and it was made all the better because the soundtrack had so much great music.


This post was modified by Purple Gel on 2011-07-23 19:34:04

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jul 25, 2011 10:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: watched it on demand this weekend

Somehow I couldn't resist even though I was sure it would be cheesy and imo it was really embarassingly cheesy.

BUT my wife liked it, and it's based on a true story which is interesting so has that going for it. I think it'll be a lot less cheesy for non fans, or fans that like Brent tunes haha ( no Brent but I meant cheesy )

sorry Lobster, no offense made, we share a love for a lot of the same stuff

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 23, 2011 8:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Music Never Stopped, Good Movie

Great nitpicking! As an inveterate movie nitpicker, I applaud you. What the hey? Sugar Magnolia in 67?

Ever noticed how Picasso's Demoiselles d'Avignon apparently sunk with the Titanic, hence changing art history forever? (It's in Rose's art collection in the movie.)

I won't go on. But I can definitely enjoy a movie and then sit around slamming the flubs at great length. (Do not ever watch a historical movie with me unless you want a running commentary on the costume inaccuracies.) I suspect moviemakers know this stuff and just say, "It doesn't matter. Artistic license." (But why they would they even WANT Sugar Magnolia to set a 67-68ish mood? Is it, like, a summer scene? I mean, what was the thought process? Sigh ...)

Would love to see the movie, of course!

Btw did shows ever open with Truckin in the Touch era? I'm not going to cheat and check. It feels to me like that happened in the early 70s (very rarely, I'm guessing) but not after that. Could be wrong. Doesn't feel right, though.

This post was modified by AltheaRose on 2011-07-24 03:14:25

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Jul 23, 2011 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Music Never Stopped, Good Movie

The only Truckin opener in the post-hiatus years that I know of is 3/28/85 which started with Truckin->Smokestack. In 1971 Truckin was a very common opener, and it shows up as an opener several times in 72 also. In the 85 show, a guest harmonica player came out for the Smokestack Lightning so that might have been the motivation for that setlist placement.

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Jul 24, 2011 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Music Never Stopped, Good Movie

Do you think they started opening with Truckin' just to avoid having the audience, especially those with BAW-stun accents, yell, "Jer-rreeeee, Play Truckin'" until they finally did? Kind of a pre-emptive strike on the part of the Dead.

Just a thought,
TOOTMO

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 23, 2011 9:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Music Never Stopped, Good Movie

Common, eh? See how much smarter I'd look if I checked? :-)

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Jul 23, 2011 10:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Music Never Stopped, Good Movie

I felt zero hesitation about cheating and went straight for the very useful statistical summary section on pages 222-238 of Deadbase 8, which provides nice tables of openers and closers for both sets in each year. I hope you didn't think I had that off the top of my head, I always check my Deadbase and Deadlists and the research blogs and do forum searches here to source any facts I need.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jul 23, 2011 10:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Music Never Stopped, Good Movie

Yeah, I don't have a print Deadbase, but I have a whole folder in my bookmarks called GD Resources. Dorky or what? (Oh well, if I worried about being dorky, having a teenager would knock that one out of me! Being a dork in as many ways as possible is part of the Mom Job Description.)

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Jul 23, 2011 11:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Music Never Stopped, Good Movie

Theme music for your post:

Dork Star >>
Keep Your Mom Job

:)

This post was modified by bkidwell on 2011-07-24 06:18:59

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jul 25, 2011 9:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Music Never Stopped, Good Movie

There is the rare Good Times Roll>Truckin>Touch from Shoreline 1990.